...that's true for me too. For some reason "Calvin" has a hard edge on his name that wounds many who hear it. Spurgeon, on the other hand, has a sponge quality about his name that causes everyone to relax a little...until they see the sharp edges underneath the surface. It always amazes me when some Christian claims to have read tons of Spurgeon material, then denies that he was a five-point Calvinist.
If you were to take the complete set of Spurgeon's sermons, take some scissors and clip out all the parts that are overtly Calvinistic, you would be left with a mound of confetti.
(You would also be very old by the time you finished : )
Pretty funny, Mr. Boyd: :D I have a friend who is decidedly Arminian, and she likes Spurgeon. I didn't know that she was Arminian at the time, and I mentioned something about him being Calvinist. She said something along the lines of "do only Calvinists read Spurgeon?" *glazed look* I guess not. :D But I think she's more Calvinist than she knows.......else she couldn't read Spurgeon and still like him.
Instead of laughing at this cartoon, it only brought back bad memories. Such conversations where you check out one another's doctrinal beliefs have happened too many times.in my earthly pilgramage. It not only happened with the Calvinism/Arminianism debate but especially with the debate between the Pretribulation vs. Posttribulation view of the Rapture.
Max Lucado once used this theme in one of his stories. In his version, the point of disagreement that ultimately divided the two parties was plexiglass versus wooden pulpits.
I completely understand EC Neufeld,s feelings. I am reminded of the time that I re-established contact with a brother whom I hadn't seen in nearly thirty years. When it came out that I was now in a Reformed church he immediately wanted to launch into a debate over the extent of the atonement. I suggested that we save that discussion for another day, and we ended up talking about our families. ("Your son is going to school in Tucson? My son is on the fire department in Tucson. By the way, please pray for him because...")
As for the cartoon, I think we need to see the ironic humor in some of the things we do and say, and Eddie illustrated that very well in this post.
When I was growing up, Art Linkletter was one of my family's favorites. I hope everyone here, especially those who are too young to remember him, reads the Wikipedia article "linked" to in the blogger name.
Much thanks to whoever it was that posted the "People are Funny" comment.
Quite decided, Mr. Boyd. Not predestined, decided. :D That's what she would say, anyway. I'm trying to change her mind. But she hasn't replied to my last email.....*snicker*, where I included the discussion that recently conspired between Kansas Bob and Mr. Eddings. I let them do the talking.
@Eddie Eddings: I talked with a good brother in the Lord just yesterday who loves to read Spurgeon but is not a Calvinist and does accept that Spurgeon was a Calvinist. He said Spurgeon was a six pointer: T.U.L.I.P.S.[oulwinner] It was a really good conversation. He was a lot different than the other Non-Calvinists I've talked with.
Bahahahahaha! Most I know would do that at the "Calvinist" question, though.
ReplyDelete...that's true for me too.
ReplyDeleteFor some reason "Calvin" has a hard edge on his name that wounds many who hear it.
Spurgeon, on the other hand, has a sponge quality about his name that causes everyone to relax a little...until they see the sharp edges underneath the surface.
It always amazes me when some Christian claims to have read tons of Spurgeon material, then denies that he was a five-point Calvinist.
If you were to take the complete set of Spurgeon's sermons, take some scissors and clip out all the parts that are overtly Calvinistic, you would be left with a mound of confetti.
ReplyDelete(You would also be very old by the time you finished : )
CraigB
Great cartoon!
ReplyDelete@Stranger: Ha! Isn't that the truth! :)
Pretty funny, Mr. Boyd: :D I have a friend who is decidedly Arminian, and she likes Spurgeon. I didn't know that she was Arminian at the time, and I mentioned something about him being Calvinist. She said something along the lines of "do only Calvinists read Spurgeon?" *glazed look* I guess not. :D But I think she's more Calvinist than she knows.......else she couldn't read Spurgeon and still like him.
ReplyDeleteIt would not be so funny if it was not so true Eddie.
ReplyDelete@Constitution Girl
ReplyDelete"...I have a friend who is decidedly Arminian,..."
"Decidedly Arminian." I like that : )
Instead of laughing at this cartoon, it only brought back bad memories. Such conversations where you check out one another's doctrinal beliefs have happened too many times.in my earthly pilgramage. It not only happened with the Calvinism/Arminianism debate but especially with the debate between the Pretribulation vs. Posttribulation view of the Rapture.
ReplyDeleteWell, you know what I always say...
ReplyDeletePeople are funny!
Max Lucado once used this theme in one of his stories. In his version, the point of disagreement that ultimately divided the two parties was plexiglass versus wooden pulpits.
ReplyDeleteI completely understand EC Neufeld,s feelings. I am reminded of the time that I re-established contact with a brother whom I hadn't seen in nearly thirty years. When it came out that I was now in a Reformed church he immediately wanted to launch into a debate over the extent of the atonement. I suggested that we save that discussion for another day, and we ended up talking about our families. ("Your son is going to school in Tucson? My son is on the fire department in Tucson. By the way, please pray for him because...")
As for the cartoon, I think we need to see the ironic humor in some of the things we do and say, and Eddie illustrated that very well in this post.
Craig Boyd
p.s. (My next blog post [later today] has to do with Romans 9 : )
When I was growing up, Art Linkletter was one of my family's favorites. I hope everyone here, especially those who are too young to remember him, reads the Wikipedia article "linked" to in the blogger name.
ReplyDeleteMuch thanks to whoever it was that posted the "People are Funny" comment.
Quite decided, Mr. Boyd. Not predestined, decided. :D That's what she would say, anyway. I'm trying to change her mind. But she hasn't replied to my last email.....*snicker*, where I included the discussion that recently conspired between Kansas Bob and Mr. Eddings. I let them do the talking.
ReplyDelete@Eddie Eddings: I talked with a good brother in the Lord just yesterday who loves to read Spurgeon but is not a Calvinist and does accept that Spurgeon was a Calvinist. He said Spurgeon was a six pointer: T.U.L.I.P.S.[oulwinner] It was a really good conversation. He was a lot different than the other Non-Calvinists I've talked with.
ReplyDeleteMichael, I like the sixth point. Not a bad way to be identified.
ReplyDelete@Eddie Eddings: TULIPS does look better than TULIPs. It is a nice addition, I think the Synod of Dort would approve. Spurgeon would at least.
ReplyDeleteWhat Kansas Bob said.
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